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swan_bite ([personal profile] swan_bite) wrote2011-05-09 05:57 pm

Put a face on the world, turn your back to the wall

/o\ i wish that different people would audio the same fic. i get seriously turned off by certain voices. was listening to an audiofic for ~poisontaster and had to delete it, and it really sounded like the kind of fic i like-- but i just couldn't get into the voice/voice acting. am i the only nut who can't hear an audiofic if the voice doesn't personally jive? surely not. maybe this the sort of issue only really rude people mention and i'm being really rude without realizing. oh well. i wish audiofic'ers were less territorial/possessive about the fics they narrated, and there could be multiple recordings of fics. surely readers understand that they are not going to appeal to everyone.

/o\ was reading a fic and it started out marvelously. blind!psychic!Sam and Dean who doesn't know him, but needs him to find his father. loved the idea that there is more than one predetermined future ahead of us and that those who can see ahead (in fiction, because i don't believe in Ms Cleo-- YMMV) see more than one possible outcome. then at about chapter 4, gratuitous sexin' with no ratcheting up of tension, no building on connection, just abrupt let's get it on. had to quit reading after that because i was no longer interested. so annoying whenever authors plop down a sex scene (like shit from the sky, a smelly gift from the birds as it were) abruptly like that it feels like telling-intimacy instead of showing-intimacy.

\o/ read "The Wet Nurse's Tale" and thought the story was enjoyable. i seem to like loose women more than i do self-righteous prudes, even if one can claim moral superiority over the other one or whatever. probably my tendency to side with the sinner and side-eye the judge. which totally leads to why

\o/ people need to get off Cas's balls. seriously. Keep Calm and Get off his balls. (unless your name is Dean and you're trying to balance yourself on them. if that's true, then save a halo, ride an angel. you go, boy.)

\o/ i've come to the conclusion that it's not that i love Cas girls (after all, i am a Sam girl who mostly reads S/D) but that tend to hang with fangirls who

- have some sense of perspective
- don't hate all the female characters on the show
- don't confuse "Lisa is 2-dimensional" with "Lisa is a hor, i hope she dies" (creepy hypocrites)
- don't make every argument from the pov of character bashing/character stanning
- know how to share screen time
- appreciate the immortal trolly genius of Ben Edlund
- understand the difference between loving a character and excusing/justifying every action a character makes at the expense of every other character
- don't think of Cas as a BOYFREND stealer, interloper, usurper

i think it's because i had spent hours (marathoned the seasons like they were coke and i was Tony Montana) not years with the Winchesters before boy-angel came along. for me it was a welcome addition, for others it might have broken the tension of WE LIVE ONLY FOR EACH OTHER, WITH EACH OTHER, BY EACH OTHER. the claustrophobia of that relationship might have been something the Wincesters cherished. for me it was like, beautiful, blue-eyed, odd, socially awkward, Aspergers angel with wings? sign me right up. *shrugs*

[identity profile] bree-black.livejournal.com 2011-05-10 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
I love podfic. I get very attached to podficcers I like, though, and then I get very upset when I run out of stuff to listen to. Because I often listen to podfic during my "me time" like before bed or in the bath, I sort of feel like we develop a relationship. Is that weird? So yeah, I understand what you mean.

I don't know what kind of ___ girl I am, tbh. I love everybody but identify most strongly with Dean, but hate ship wars or ___ vs. ____ wank more than anything, and I think I meet most of your criteria? I'm gonna call myself a TFW girl and be done with it. :)

[identity profile] bree-black.livejournal.com 2011-05-10 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, but also, I do really really really love the claustrophia of Sam and Dean's relationship, and I marathoned it too. It's just not the only thing I like.

[identity profile] bree-black.livejournal.com 2011-05-10 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
ALSO, because I just noticed, "HE WATCHED HIM RAKE LEAVES" IS THE BEST TAG I HAVE EVER SEEN.

[identity profile] swan-bite.livejournal.com 2011-05-10 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
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[identity profile] swan-bite.livejournal.com 2011-05-10 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
oh, me too-- which is why i don't like it when people say "i hope they get better, healthier" whatever. because i don't necessarily want health and a sense of proportion from my fictional love affairs. ruination, can't-live-without-eachotherness and don't even know how is good enough for me.

i just think that Cas doesn't take away from that and the claustrophobia is just one part of it. they're soul mates, they're brothers. how much closer can they get.

[identity profile] bree-black.livejournal.com 2011-05-10 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
i don't like it when people say "i hope they get better, healthier" whatever.

Yeah, fuck those people. Seriously. And OK, I've been pretty thrilled they're working together again and stuff, but they still aren't healthy by a long shot.

they're soul mates, they're brothers. how much closer can they get.

Well I have a few ideas. *wink wink nudge nudge*

[identity profile] swan-bite.livejournal.com 2011-05-10 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
hahahahahahahaha yeah. :D:D:D

it's sickening or illuminating depending on who you ask, that when i say "brothers and soulmates" i pretty much think that being "lovers" (i always cringe a little when i say that because it makes me think of victorian era bodice rippers) is a given.

[identity profile] swan-bite.livejournal.com 2011-05-10 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
naw, that happens to me with authors.

gets to the point where i feel all loving and YOUR WORDS COMPLETE ME and they must look at me like o.O

i id most strongly with Sam, because i'm the youngest in my household and i still remember how it was to just expect pretty much anything and everything. the very definition of spoiled. i wasn't mean about it either, but i was just used to it.

it's like i read this fic where Sam would get sadpuppy if anybody made themselves a sandwich and didn't make him one and i saw myself a few years ago. that bit of entitlement with yr loved ones? it was kind of jarring and like, woah, i have sucked.

but hate ship wars or ___ vs. ____ wank more than anything, and I think I meet most of your criteria? I'm gonna call myself a TFW girl and be done with it. :)

:DDDDDD awesome. good choice.

[identity profile] bree-black.livejournal.com 2011-05-10 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
Ha ha I ID with Dean because I'm the oldest sibling, and my baby sister is (when I'm not wearing my Wincest hat, of course!) the Sam to my Dean, for better and for worse. She understands me better than anyone else in the world and we just click together and she's in so many ways my best friend. But she's made some pretty serious mistakes and kept them from me, and I really understand that kind of suffocating-panic-love thing where your sibling's happiness matters more than your own and you almost hate them you love them so much.

[identity profile] swan-bite.livejournal.com 2011-05-10 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
yeah, i guess it's like Y U DO DIS TO ME whenever she does something to hurt herself accidentally.

aw, i totally genfic you now. ;}

[identity profile] drunkcascookies.livejournal.com 2011-05-10 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
I'm a Cas girl, but I love Dean and Sam a lot too. Cas's socially awkward ways have endeared me to him and I love how Dean prays to him too. There's so much cute awkwardness that I just can't stand it. It's been just the two Winchesters for so long, I think the show can stand to have others in there too.